No energy from nothing needed and what mass defficit ?


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Posted by Wesley Bruce on March 17, 1997 at 19:46:18:

In Reply to: New invention - Generating energy from nothing! posted by J. Prabhakar on October 12, 1996 at 02:58:26:

At no point has their been any indecation of a breach of conservation of either energy or mass. Mr Pillai heats his solution no body has checked to see if the thermal energy in is less than the chemical energy out in the form of hydrocarbon.Theoreticaly a thermaly driven enzimic reaction could be very efficent but it would not be greater than 100% efficent. It doesn't need to be it is converting low grade fuel like gas or fire wood into a liquid form that will run efficient cooking equipment, cars and cycles.
The mass deficit may be an illusion produced by a common biochemical process. Removing one hydrogen from a water molecule costs less energy than removing the second hydrogen from the resulting hydroxide so biochemical systems tend to discard the hydroxide and attack another water. Hydroxides and hydrocarbons would tend to mix and react producing heat, CO2 and water. We end up back where we started from. Since the plant is producing hydrocarbon for a reason it will tend to isolate the hydroxide from the rest of the intra-cellular fluid.CO2 is always absorbed and released from a liquids surface in equilibrium. Since the CO2 in the container is being absorbed by the reaction the CO2 in the atmosphere that hits the surface will be absorbed. Thus the CO2 adds mass to the system but the hydroxide is not converted into O2 and lost. Thus the carbon content of the hydrocarbon shows up as an excess mass in the total mass of the system.
This means that no real energy defficit or mass defficit is in the system as it is sofar described.The enzymes from the plant or a membrane bound intracellular enzyme complex is still operating in Mr pillai's cooking pot.Increasing the partial pressure of CO2 in the air over the cooking pot should increase the production quantities if the reaction is not limited by another factor.
Please get your enzyme specialists to study it not your Physicists or your inorganic chemists.


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